in what i'm sure was brought on by my mention of explosions in the sky in my last post and the appearance of it in a google blog search, i received an email from a publicist asking me if i had seen an interview with explosions on MTV URGE.
this works for me on many levels:
1) this guy was on top of his game and hitting up blogs that are talking about, not just the product he is repping (turns out he was a rep for URGE), but the bands that they are featuring. this is a great way to generate interest for URGE, especially focusing on a sub-national band with a loyal following, like explosions in the sky.
2) the email was addressed to me, my real name, and was not trying to be overly hip or buddy-buddy, just very simply, "thought you might be interested in this".
3) it came from an actual person, not a generic mailbox.
4) i responded to the e-mail and received a response within 15 minutes, which is very important in this give and take "social media" world.
here is what i didn't like (and has nothing to do with the publicist):
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the program required to watch this interview does not run on a mac. why? i'm just speculating, but my best guess is that Viacom, who owns MTV, is in bed with microsoft on some level. and since it looks like URGE is also a music store, they don't want it to be cross-platform and head to head against the itunes dominated mac world. which also means that anything that is purchased from URGE will not play on an ipod, only on "plays for sure" devices, which are advertised on the site, thanks to the ongoing DRM wars. of course, in the FAQ they try to point the finger at Apple for using a different DRM product, AAC, but really both sides are playing against the middle. and bill gates has not come out and said the he would ditch DRM tomorrow if the labels would allow him, steve jobs has done this. at least point the finger at the right entities, the record labels, not at the competition in a feeble attempt to cast them in a bad light.
on that note, emusic just became the second most popular music download site behind itunes and they have mp3, DRM-free, files for download. but sure RIAA, unrestricted files hurt sales. who are you kidding anyway?
anyway, in another great move by the publicist, he sent me the transcript of the interview after hearing of my platform issues....very cool. so expand the post to read it:
URGE: In terms of the writing and recording process, how do these songs come together? On one hand, they're incredibly precise, but there's also a very organic, loose feel.
Chris Hrasky: We don't have a very good process of "Here's how we do it." It's a lot of trial and error. This album took quite a while to do. We spent six months working on it and wound up throwing it all away. It can be fairly arduous. There are certain patterns where we do one thing that leads to another, but typically, it's fly by the seat of our pants.
Matt Smith: The first two albums were fairly easy to write. I mean that was six or seven years ago, but I don't remember anything traumatic happening. It was still a part-time thing. We all had day jobs, and there weren't really any expectations about where things could go. The album before this one was pretty difficult just because we weren't coming up with material, but for All of a Sudden ..., the problem was the awareness that people were waiting for it. We're already pretty self-critical and adding expectations to the mix almost makes you not want to do it! [laughs] But we got over it. We're big boys, and after a while, you just want to make an album you're happy with.
URGE: So then, if writing can be squeezing blood from a stone, what's the recording process like?
Hrasky: We mostly record live, and that has its own set of problems. You'll be playing an 11-minute song and you get to the eighth minute, and you start thinking, "F**k, don't mess this up." And we screw up a lot. I mean, some of these songs are hard to play! There are flubs everywhere on albums. We just try and use the more charming mistakes, but we're dedicated to recording live. We might overdub tambourines or something, but we really try to keep it as us in the room, and that can be kind of scary.
URGE: Is there any kind of razzing that goes on if the same guy keeps screwing up a take?
Hrasky: Hah -- not really. We're getting better at it. You get in a sour mood after the sixth take. Then you gotta get a pizza or something. You can't get mad. We all screw up. There were points on this album where I simply could not play the drum parts. You get to a point where you're on whatever take and you just know you're gonna screw it up.
Smith: We really like the mixing process. The recording process is kinda nerve-racking to be honest.
URGE: You've talked about how the expectations are tangible now. Ever since Friday Night Lights, people probably associate certain songs with a paraplegic football player. Have you had to let go of some of your personal relationships with these songs? In a larger sense, do these songs have meaning to you guys? Are they about something?
Smith: In terms of people equating things to Friday Night Lights... that's always been a tough decision for us. We don't want, in five years, for people to say, "Oh, that's the Friday Night Lightsband." That's not why we wrote those songs. So it's pretty tricky. It isn't easy for us to just say, "Go ahead, use the song."
Hrasky: We have a song in a car commercial. I'm completely embarrassed by it. The only reason we did it was financial security. It was a time when it was kind of necessary to get some help, but that was really hard. My parents will call and say, "We saw the commercial again!" They're parents, they get excited, but I don't even want to see the thing. We just sold it. There's nothing beyond that. We did it for money and it sucks. At the same time this is our job now. You do start thinking about if you get married or have kids, then the band has to support that. So, we're only just coming to terms with the idea that this is what we do.
URGE: It must be hard to think of your art as a bargaining chip.
Smith: When we write it, we're not thinking about the commercial value of our music. I'd rather have this be my job than any of the jobs I've had before, but it's a tension. None of us are completely comfortable with it, but ultimately it's our decision.
URGE: But with the TV show, there definitely seems to be a pretty complimentary relationship between the music and the narrative it's scoring.
Hrasky: I make a huge distinction between the commercial and the show. I haven't actually seen all the episodes of the show, but it's been pretty acclaimed critically. I don't have the same guilt with the show; I just don't want to always be associated with it. And up until now, that hasn't happened. We haven't had that at all, and it has introduced our stuff to tons of people who wouldn't have [previously] listened.
Smith: A lot of times it is weird though. You'll see a scene and Lyla [a character on the show] is crying her eyes out, and you think, "Well ... that's one way of thinking about it!"
URGE: Is there much of a working relationship with [the show's creator and film's director] Peter Berg?
Smith: For the film, we went out to California and talked with him, saw some dailys, and tried to figure out which songs fit which scenes. And that's how "Your Hand in Mine" became the film's main theme. Mostly, we work with the music supervisor. They ask to use three songs for scenes, and we'll tell them you can use these two, so on and so forth.
URGE: Has soundtrack work always been a collective goal for the band?
Hrasky: Definitely. We had worked on some short films made by friends and then all of a sudden we're at Universal Studios, and I'm thinking, "What the f**k!?" And that's a credit to Peter Berg because he was able to convince the studio to use some obscure instrumental band from Texas in his football movie.
URGE: You're heading out on tour, and I noticed there are few alternative venues, not just rock clubs, listed as destinations. You guys certainly don't seem to do the Sigur Ros thing where you only play, like, cathedrals filled with ice sculptures.
Hrasky: [laughs] Right. We're not playing the New York Public Library. We're a band. We totally love playing different places, but for the most part, we play wherever people want us. We'd like to play more offbeat places. I heard Arcade Fire is playing five nights in a church in New York ... we don't have that kind of clout yet! But I like it when bands do that kind of stuff. I saw Low once play at the Johns Hopkins Library in Baltimore, and that was incredible.
URGE: The band has a really cohesive, singular sound, but what are your individual tastes as listeners like?
Hrasky: Well, the record we all love is Sunset Rubdown. It's the solo record from the guy from Wolf Parade. That was my favorite album from [2006].
URGE: Do you listen to much music that sounds like Explosions in the Sky?
Hrasky: I like Mogwai. I don't listen to them that much anymore, but they're a huge reason why we exist. It's funny though, none of us are really that into Mogwai or Godspeed You Black Emperor. None of us listen to that much instrumental stuff -- weird composers here and there, but not a lot of stuff that you'd think as influences and our sound.
URGE: What's the most unlikely stuff you listen to, given the sound of the band?
Smith: I've been listening to a lot of Clipse recently. That's the best record I've heard in a long time. I listen to a lot of hip-hop, but that's really a cut above.
URGE: I feel a collaboration in the works.
Smith: Tell their people to call our people.
3.01.2007
An urge to explode..
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12.12.2006
some more random things...
so, i basically work with social media sites (web 2.0, this guy is a 2.0 guru, and this site is really cool) in an attempt to create new marketing and pr initiatives via these mediums. i am exploring this role, as are many in the marketing/pr field as it is still a very "trial and error" strategy, some stuff works and some does not. hopefully, we can come up with more "hits" than "misses", i think we can...in fact, i'd have to say i'm pretty confident we can. i have some possible future stuff coming with clients that may or may not be in the works....
here is something that didn't work, and something that i, thank god, would never think of perpetrating:
Sony Takes It Up the Ass for Fake Blog
transparency is just so important that it can't be over-stated. i was a blogger first (albeit a very inconsistent one but a blogger nonetheless) and now i have a job in that arena, i'm not pretending to be a blogger, i just work as one now (and a myspacer, facebooker, digger, del.icio.us'er, feeder, etc...).
one of the biggest things that i have learned is that there is a tremendous amount of work that goes into the back end of these kinds of projects and can come out looking relatively small when put in front of clients and employers, or at least that's what it feels like (definitely with one of the sites which took me quite some time and is still very basic, however thats got to do with learning actual web design as i go). however, i can definitely feel myself beginning to think more creatively as my brain gets used to working in that way again after my insurance and non-profit stints. i like this.
anyway...
i know i mentioned judah johnson in my last post, but i really can't say enough. the whole album is really good and might be one of the best of this year (this may have inspired me to write a "best of 2006" post, but we'll see, we all know how that goes).
last night my emusic account refilled, so by this weekend i will be 130 songs "richer". here's to hoping i make some good choices.
songs that played:
seville - cold shoulder
764-Hero - loaded painted red
american analog set - where did you come from
one line drawing - candle song
maharaj - an insect (officially now some of the most unlistenable stuff that i won and i love it)
jeff buckley - mojo pin
actually, on this note, what do you guys think of the "last.fm recently played tracks" thing in my sidebar? does it help anybody feel like they know what i'm listening to at the moment? does it help anyone discover new music? it doesn't really fit over there size-wise and i don't have the time to go in and mess with the code, but if even 1 person likes it, then it shall stay.
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